"Knowing and working with Joi Frankel Courtney for the past 40 years has been wonderful. I love love love having a personal jeweler. Her taste level affords me a fabulous collection which is phenomenal"
- Donna, Loyal Client & Friend Since 1980
"I was highly recommended to Designs by Joi over 10 years ago.
Since then , I have had Joi create a wardrobe of one-of -a- kind diamond intriguing pieces. I also send her Jewelry I own from the past to update and make something current. I receive more compliments and find I have something different for all occasions. From evening wear to everyday wear , I know I have an original design that Joi Created just for me. Joi has been my trustworthy designer and friend, for which I treasure...REALLY"
- Liza, Boca Raton. Loyal Client & Friend From 2009 and Everyday Since
"JANY 1998. I was walking through the aisles of the Javits when I come across this booth, "Designs By Joi", and this petite, bright-eyed lady was busy with a number of clients. I had just started my jewelry business in Jamaica and was looking for "the perfect line" for my clients. That's the day I met Joi and my business launched. Not only did she have a great line with the most perfect price points, she was dignified, honorable and trustworthy. Joi is an inspiration, a teacher, and most importantly a friend to me.
"Designs by Joi" is always evolving with the times and current fashions without blending in with the rest. I am always impressed by her ingenuity and dedication to quality. With all the experience and education Joi is always willing to make any little change just to satisfy her customers. As long as I'm in the jewelry business, Joi will be the one I go to."
- Sandra Bicknell, Kingston, Jamaica W.I. client Since 1999
"What an experience with Joi. I did not know what to do with my old three stone engagement ring. Joi designed an incredible updated ring, added an Oval Diamond center, and made my dream come true.
Now on my 60th birthday, I don' t feel like a Princess, but like a Queen with a one of a kind Diamond Knock-Out ring. Thank you Joi you are a great creative designer and in my heart always."
-Thea, Rotterdam, Holland. Loyal Client & Friend Since 1987
"Thank You, it’s been more than a pleasure working with you,
thanks for your advice and kindness!!!
It’s a gorgeous ring you’ve created for my Sweetheart!!!
She’s very, very happy !!! I look forward to meeting you.
Amazing we did this long distance without meeting. You were very highly recommended by dear friends in Florida.
And we will recommend you very very highly to anyone we know who needs and type of jewelry!!!!"
- Dave and Ney Sanders -Sarasota, Fla. August 2018
"Joi has anything you could imagine. My fiancé got our custom made wedding bands & my engagement ring. They are perfect! Thank you, Joi! He’ll definitely be back for anniversaries”
- Amanda C, New York City. Client Since 2010
"It's been a pleasure working with Joi and we couldn't be more pleased with our experience. She is so much fun, very helpful and made the whole process feel personalized and one of a kind. The engagement ring she designed was exactly what we wanted, and we are excited to continue working with Joi as we pick our wedding rings!"
- Lizzie & Cian, Clients Since 2015
"Thank You For the Engagement ring. Don't think she would have said yes without the ring you made us!"
- Peter S, Client Since 2015
"Such a good experience! I am so thankful for my beautiful engagement ring! We also had so much fun looking at wedding rings. Joi really tailors the experience to the customer! Also, she is so good about answering emails and texts."
- Pat and Meredith, NYC. Clients since 2016
"Joi, Thank you so much for creating the most perfect engagement ring!!! It couldn't be more fabulous!!! I absolutely love it!!! Tom did it right, by the way! Tres' romantic!!! Much love!!!"
- Shay, Client Since 2015
"Joi designed both our engagement and wedding rings, and we couldn't be more satisfied with the results. With only 4 weeks to work with, Joi designed, created, and shipped our rings in time for our wedding. She was fun to work with, knowledgeable in her industry, and a true professional you can trust. We recommend all of our friends to her after such a wonderful experience."
- Diana P, Virginia. Client Since 2014
"I am thrilled with my custom-designed engagement ring by Joi after Two other jewelers couldn't get it right! Joi patiently collaborated with me to ensure that I received exactly what I wanted and more! Joi is kind, honest, reliable, knowledgeable and very passionate about her work, which reflects in her designs."
- Randi D, New York. Friend & Customer Since 2012
"Thank you for the work and excitement you put into this ring. I couldn't wait to see it, and even more, can't wait for her to see it!"
Update: "Steph is Over the Moon for the Ring and we are getting Wedding Bands too!"
- Jason, Las Vegas
"She absolutely died when she saw the ring! Joi did an unbelievable job!"
- Erik P, New York. Client Since 2016
"She LOVE LOVE LOVES the ring and everyone loves it too! It looks even better on her finger, and I couldn't be more proud of it! Thanks for putting up with me and making a beautiful ring!!!!!"
- Will Z, Client Since 2017
"I can't say enough about Designs by Joi!!!!! Joi made finding the perfect engagement ring such a unbelievable experience.We even went back for our wedding bands. Joi is amazing and so friendly and helpful and will bend over backwards to help you get what you need in a timely fashion. Joi found me the sparkiest, prettiest diamond that makes people stop and look at the ring!! Thanks for everything Joi!!
Couldn't have pulled this whole thing off without you!!
- Matt H, Client Since 2015
"We've worked on many projects with Joi and have always been so thrilled with the outcome! Designs by Joi surpasses others in customer service unique designs, and beautiful jewelry"
- Jason and Erica S, NYC. Clients sine 2014
"Joi, WOW, WOW, WOW! I am so excited, surprised and thankful that Matt chose you to create our beautiful ring. My bling IS gorgeous, thank you so much!!
And the gifts, too perfect....you’re too much!! I am still surprised (and I never get surprised), shocked and smiling from ear to ear this morning. I look forward to meeting you in NYC soon!"
All the best,
- Stacey & Matt, Clients Since 2017
"Hi Joi! I wanted to say thank you for such an incredible job on the ring- it is beyond beautiful -I'm shocked and so incredibly happy to marry the love of my life:)"
- Deb A, Client Since 2015
"My husband and I decided that we wanted a small wedding and that we would just go to city hall and invite our immediate family to witness our union. I told my husband that I didn't need a ring, but he insisted that I deserved and needed one. So we started to look for rings since we had a month before our wedding date. I have a good friend who had mentioned she knew of a great jeweler. So I asked her about that jeweler, and it was Joi. I called and spoke to Nicole, told her what I was looking for and was able to make a same day appointment with Joi. Our meeting was nothing short of pleasant and the service was just amazing. Joi was honest and worked within our budget. And what sealed the deal for us during that first meeting, was that she was so nice and patient with us since since we had our two year old with us. Joi was a joy to work with and we will definitely return for any future purchases and will recommend her to anyone who needs beautiful pieces of jewelry!"
- Chris & Andres, NY, Clients Since 2017
"I wanted to say Thank You! She said "Are you serious?" Then said "Yes!" when she saw the ring...LOL"
- Michael K, NYC, Client Since 2017
"She absolutely Loves the Ring and was Overwhelmed!
You did such an Amazing job on the ring and it fits her perfectly!!!"
- Pat B, Client Since 2014
"The ring is better than I could have ever imagined. Joi did absolutely amazing work. Thank you so much!"
- Amy Rosenberg, Client Since 2016
"I originally contacted Joi about a diamond bracelet. In the process, I decided based upon her superior customer care and knowledge to add an order for a new ring set for myself also.
I am over the moon in love with my new Engagement/Wedding Ring and the bracelet. I was all over the design map on both pieces yet was open to a professionally guided opinion which Joi delivered. She provided fabulous options and in the end, customized a gorgeous ring and bracelet.
Her diamonds are brilliantly gorgeous. The best was this life changing transaction was handled all via phone and online and Joi made it happen effortlessly.
Both items were shipped overnight within a surprisingly quick time. We now have a new family member and her name is Joi. Jeweler for life!!"
- Aimee and Michele W, Gig Harbor, Wa. Clients Since 2016
"Thanks again for everything. It's been a pleasure working with you through this whole thing. I will be recommending you to all my future friends who are looking to buy a ring."
- Bryan F, Virginia. Client Since 2016
"Everything came out better then I even imagined. Joi is a True Artist. Our neighbor was at the restaurant when we were getting engaged, her boyfriend approached us and said he wished he would've known about you because he had just purchased a ring from Blue Nile and said this ring was so much more brilliant!"
- Tiffany & Sam S, Clients Since 2016
"Thank you so much for helping me with the most beautiful ring I have ever seen. I have to tell you at my age, I really didn’t have the time or the interest to shop around and do all the research. This is the second and last engagement ring I will ever buy and you made the process AS PAINLESS AS POSSIBLE!!!. And trust me as a dentist I know a thing about pain. I have to say that I have referred all my friends and family to you Joi. Buying a diamond is a difficult process because it’s really hard to know what you are buying and more importantly trusting the person you are buying from. Joi is an extremely honest and fair person and would not steer you in the wrong direction. She is extremely knowledgeable and makes the process as easy as possible. Guys if you are looking for an engagement ring don’t waste your time anywhere else. Joi will get you the best ring possible within your budget and your fiancé will be in awe. Trust me. Thanks again Joi and I will see you for Valentine’s Day to get the matching earrings!
- Lawrence, Client Since 2016
"We had such an amazing experience working with Joi the first time, that we keep coming back for more!!! Joi designed my engagement ring 3 years ago; which came out absolutely perfect! At the time, we were living in Florida and my husband was unable to visit, so described the type of ring he wanted over the phone. She was so easy to get in contact with and made sure he received the ring quickly. With Joi's creative touch and amazing style, she designed the perfect engagement ring and surpassed expectations! Since then, she has also made my beautiful wedding band and a new anniversary band. She is extremely dedicated to making her clients happy and now she is not only our "go to jeweler" but also a friend we get excited to see whenever we are in New York. We now recommend Joi to all of our friends and family getting engaged or looking for an honest and trustworthy jeweler....Plus she is so much fun!!! Thank you Joi for everything you have done for us! Can't wait to see you again!"
- Kristi and Ricky N, Florida. Clients Since 2014
"I was referred to Joi by my good friend, who told me Joi could deliver a custom ring within my budget. He was absolutely right! Joi helped me and my family understand how we should buy a stone, what to look for, and made the stone selection process a lot of fun. She listened to what I wanted, and made me a custom engagement ring that looks incredible! Both my fiance and I can't stop looking at the brilliance of her ring. Not only did she make us a custom ring, but was able to bring it to life in 2 weeks for my proposal date. Joi makes you feel like the most important client she has regardless of what you're buying. I'm so glad I came to her, because we now have an amazing ring, and an amazing memory. Thank you Joi!"
- Dan and Jackie W. Clients Since 2016
"I want to thank Joi for helping me find and pick the most perfect diamond. Joi also has the best craftsmanship, the ring setting is
perfect and flawless. Not only does my fiancé blind people with her
ring but everyone complement how beautiful the ring is. I am definitely a repeat customer and I will be recommending Designs
by Joi to everyone looking for jewelry."
- Jonathan S, Client Since 2016
"Just wanted to thank you for the beautiful rings!! I also loved the bracelet Mike surprised me with! I am in love with the petite tennis bracelet. I love them both!! Thanks again!"
- Geraldine & Mike, Clients Since 2016
"We thank you for helping Mike design the engagement ring of my dreams! I cannot wait to meet you and thank you in person for making this such a nice experience for him."
- Roseann and Mike, Clients Since 2016
"Joi made the stress of buying an engagement ring disappear! After meeting with several other jewelers, I went to Joi highly recommended. She was more knowledgeable and explained everything in detail. Joi was very helpful throughout the entire process and was able to find me the best quality given my budget. Her years of experience and wisdom made me feel very comfortable and I was able to trust her."
- Jonathon A, Client Since 2017
"I reached out to Joi primarily to reset my old wedding stone. While I had a few designs in mind,Joi did a great job at reading my thoughts and coming up with a stellar new updated setting that accentuated the stone. While in the process of mending one ring, Joi began educating me on solitaires and potential options I could look for to fit within my budget for a second ring. Her honest and non haggling approach guided me to make the right decision that fit within my need and price point. Exactly what you want in your jewelry sales person!
For both the rings, Joi did a great job at getting me custom settings. I have gotten so many compliments and questions asking who the designer of the rings are.
Working with Joi was an experience of its own. Her honest, knowledgeable and enthusiastic personality has me roped in to keep going back to Joi for more. Additionally her service and delivery schedule was impeccable. Joi was able to custom build both rings and get them to me in a matter of days.
Am so glad to have found a lifetime jeweler in her!"
- Sudie M, Client Since 2017
"Hey Joi, You did a great job with distracting me with that text. But he popped the question on Sat and I was so surprised. I love the ring Soooo much. And thanks for the ring holder! See u soon."
- Sheba, NYC. Client Since 2017
"I wanted to Say Thank You. She Said "Are You Serious?" Then "Yes" when she saw the Ring....lol."
- Michael K, NYC. Client Since 2017
"The Ring is Perfect! Joi is amazing. I couldn't be happier with the experience. She was speechless. Everyone loves the ring!
- Bobby H, Client Since 2017
"Joi was a pleasure to work with. Flexible, creative, funny and kind! Her work is unbelievable. WE obviously LOOOOVE our rings! I'm so excited to wear my bling! Yay!"
- XO, Jillian W, Client Since 2017
"Joi was fantastic in helping find the perfect stones for an engagement ring. I was given Joi's details by a friend, and from the moment I contacted Joi over the phone from the UK she was exceptionally helpful in her advice and support. At every step of the journey Joi went above and beyond to ensure that I had the perfect stones. A huge thank you to Joi for all of her help, I couldn't be more happy with the result."
All the best,
- Hugh, UK, Client Since 2017
"I just bought my first ring and it was an amazing experience! Joi is a wonderful, honest person and she made a spectacular ring. Joi is the only Jeweler I will work with in the future."
- James Redd, NY, Client Since 2017
"Joi has been my mom's jeweler for years and has always spoken so highly of her.
When it was time for my wedding, Joi created My Partner and I Engagement rings and wedding bands. Not only are we ecstatic, but we worked with Joi completely over the phone!
She is a great designer, really listened to what we wanted and sent photos throughout the entire process to get our approval.
Joi loves what she does and it shows and Stacey and I will only go to Joi in the future!"
- Katy, MA, Client since 2017
"You Nailed it! I just wanted to send a thousand "Thanks” to you for your extra ordinary efforts in helping me design the tennis bracelet for my wife on our 20th wedding anniversary. I don’t make significant jewelry purchases often enough, so your friendly, open and charming personality comforts to me in this endeavor! The bracelet absolutely hit the mark, making us very, very happy! Bar none, the end product compared to price point could not be matched by anyone I have worked with in the past. We are just so pleased with your knowledge, patience, service, and delivery that we have been recommending you to everyone. My wife’s arm is a walking billboard and testament to your brilliant work! I look forward to working with you again soon!"
- Chris J., Boston, MA. Satisfied Customer Since 2016
"What can I say, you are a GENIUS. The "B" bracelet came out incredible, it was EXACTLY what we wanted and more. Its crazy how easily you can turn an image or idea into a real life piece of jewelry.
The ring you previously made was also incredible and exactly what I wanted. My wife loves each of these pieces and wears them every day.
Thanks and my love to Joi!"
- Kyle N, Client Since 2016
"I live in London and was highly recommended to Joi by a friend of mine living in NYC. I have since bought many pieces of beautiful jewellery from Joi. She is a genius! Her designs are beautiful, diamonds are exquisite and always very well priced. In fact the quality and price well and truly exceeded my expectations and could certainly never be matched in London! Joi is brilliantly knowledgeable yet always listens to your exact requirements. I still have a few more items on my wish list so will definitely be buying again, but in the mean time I will continue to recommend Designs By Joi to friends and family."
- Your friend Louise...London..UK. Client since 2012
“Joi Frankel is charming, creative, and honest. She took apart a huge diamond pin I inherited but never wore. Joi designed a beautiful collection of rings, earrings, and a necklace that I love and wear all the time. My envious friends compliment me all the time and I refer them to Joi.”
- Simone, New York City. Client Since 2012
"On behalf of my lovely wife, Nicole, you did a splendid job. She absolutely loved the ring! Thank you for working with us on the phone. We hope to meet you in NYC soon to create a ring for her 40th Birthday."
- Carl, Tuscon, Arizona. Client Since 2017
"Joi has helped me make an amazing impression on my wife now twice over, creating fantastic diamond stud jackets for the solitaires I got from Joi before. She's always super friendly and honest (important when dealing with precious stones ) with a great selection of jewelry... I will continue to go back to Joi , much to my wife's satisfaction!"
- Daniel R, Client Since 2015
"Joi is absolutely amazing! She knew exactly what I wanted and created a gorgeous ring for me. I will be coming back to Joi for all of my jewelry needs because Joi is an amazing jeweler! "
- Love you Sista!, Kristin H. Client Since 2017
"Joi, I love my ring! You did a fabulous job. I can't wait to wear it and my fancy earrings to a special occasion. I'm wearing my ring to work tomorrow:) Again, thanks a million!"
-Your friend in Tucson, Pam F "A very happy girl" Client Since 2017
" My mother and I have been Clients since the early 80's.
As always, Joi was amazing! I had a lot of Estate Jewelry from my mom that I wanted to redesign and she helped make fabulous decisions. Some things were modernized and I can't wait to wear them! Joi's ideas and input were so creative and clever.
Since I am not an artist, Joi helped me create amazing pieces.
Cannot wait to bring Joi the next group to rip apart an put back together. Joi makes it FUN!"
-Roberta, NY, Client Since 1982
- Steve Corbo Corbo Jewelers, Rutherford, NJ. Client Since 2000
"My jewelry store was opened in 1977 in downtown, St. Petersburg, Florida. From its conception, our philosophy has - and always will be - to carry the most unique high-quality jewelry available.
This is how I first was introduced to Joi Frankel's 'Designs by Joi'. While on a mission to enhance my inventory in New York City in 1979 or 1980, I was drawn to Joi's creations. Her passion was contagious and was easily translated to my employees and onto our customers. The first pieces purchased I let my wife wear, receiving rave reviews. Women love wearing 'Designs By Joi'.
From Joi's simple designs to her more exotic jewelry, they all sell, time and time again...I sampled all and am still enjoying and reaping the benefits ($) of carrying herline. At times, having Joi re-create a piece that sold for me years ago, only to find that it is still desirable!Timeless designs, GREAT value, and fantastic customer service will keep Bernie's and Son Jewelers loyal customers to Designs by Joi, Inc."
- Bob Serota
Bernie's and Son Jewelers, St. Petersburg, FL. Your Old Wholesale Customer-Since 1981-Who Still Loves To See You!
"We love Designs by Joi, Inc. Joi is a pleasure to work with and are very accommodating. The price points are great and special orders are a snap. An easy sell."
- Marianne DeSena
Kravit Jewelers, Oceanside, NY. Client Since 2009
"For twenty-five years I have been buying jewelry from Designs by Joi. Joi is an honest individual who treats her clients like friends as opposed to merely business associates. Joi's innovative designs, fair pricing and sound business practices are a model for the industry. I always look forward to seeing Joi Frankel (and her new introductions) in New York or any of the shows."
- Elva Valentine
Valentine's, Dallas, PA. Client Since 1992
"OMG Joi, We keep getting love for the ring from everybody!
You are an artist. Thank you my dear!!!"
"I absolutely love it!!! Thanks so so much! Perfect fit! Happiest day of my life!! 😂😂What a weekend this has turned out to be! Can’t thank you enough!! Also thanks so much for the lovely ring holder and the jewelery cleaner!! I am a lucky girl and appreciate it so much!!! "
The genius. I was almost for the first time in my life speechless (ask Louise, this hasn’t happened before). It’s the most beautiful ring I have ever seen in my life. My mother is insanely jealous and now giving my poor father a very hard time.
I was and still am extremely overwhelmed and hugely grateful to you and my amazing husband.
I hope to meet you in person for the matching earrings soon ().
Much love Sophie xxxxxx
She absolutely loved it Joi !!!
The size was perfect
I thank you for all your help!!!
I can’t believe we never met and this came out exactly how she wanted.
- Bryson , Savannah GA
Mom thank you so much for introducing me, it was the best gift ever! She was incredible and designed a mesmerizing ring for Sam.
- John, New York City (2020)
Thank you for all you help, Ariela loves the ring. Joi did an amazing job helping me create my fiancé’s dream ring. She made it so easy and made my vision a reality. Even after I proposed, Joi went out of her way to make sure that my fiancé loved the ring and there was nothing else to do. I can’t wait to continue working with Joi in the future!
- Jake and Ariela (2020), Ohio
I’ve been with my partner for 10 years. I wanted to find the best jeweler that can make sure the engagement was a success. Joi made sure that engagement was a great success. It was so successful I came back to Joi for our wedding bands and as a 1st year wedding anniversary gift, a second wedding band! She cared not only about the rings but what we will become as a married couple. A lot of people do not understand the cause and effect of an engagement/marriage like Joi. The name says it all!
- Frantz and Sophonie (2020)
There is no bigger compliment I can give you Joi other than that I trust you completely. I never met you face to face but through Elizabeth I can say you are a friend!
- Mark Stevens, Sarasota, FL (2020)
Thank you sooo much! We both cannot stop looking at the ring. It's truly beautiful.
To think we made Taylor's dream come true AND we did it over Facetime!!
- Parker and Taylor, Ca
Amazing experience, Joi was professional, smooth and fun to work with. She was very mindful in choosing the right pieces to make this beautiful engagement ring perfect for her, I extremely recommend Designs by Joi for that special loved one.
- Noel Estevez (2021)
Joi, you knocked this outa the park....You nailed it she absolutely loves the rings!! Thank you so much I will recommend all my friends.
- Robert and Claire, Colorado, (2021)
Thank you so much. Joe and I enjoyed working with you so much. You made us so happy and the rings are perfect. Thank you, You are the best!
-Alex and Joe, Long Beach, NY (2021)
Joi did an amazing job helping me create my fiance's dream ring. She made it so easy and made my vision a reality. Even after I proposed, Joi went out of her way to make sure that my fiance loved the ring and there was nothing else to do. I can't wait to continue working with Joi in the future!
- Jake Meryerson, (2020)
Working with Joi was a tremendous experience! I came into the process pretty clueless, and she taught me everything there was to know about diamonds in a completely transparent manner. She was always available to discuss any questions I had throughout the process. Most importantly, my fiancé was thrilled with the ring! Would highly recommend Designs by Joi to anyone purchasing jewelry.
- John and Erin Nash, (2022)
Joi was amazing to work with and I'm so happy that she was the one to design my dream engagement ring. You could tell how passionate she is about her designs. She even added special touches to my ring that weren't in the photo that she had referenced. I really appreciated her attention to detail, she made my engagement so special
- Katie and Robert, (2022)
Thank you Joi….. You made my new fiance the happiest with the most beautiful diamond. After shopping endlessly and not happy with other jewelers it was fantastic to get you as a highly recommended diamond designer!!!! Boy that worked out,,, thank u so much
Till the next great occasion
- Asheta and Karphik, (2022)
Working with Joi was such a pleasure! She made my life so easy while designing the most beautiful ring for my Fiancé! It’s insane literally everyone at her work came by her desk to see. Some even took pics to send to their significant others haha. Then Jenna just got a new job so she says it has super powers haha!
- Mike and Jenna, (2022)
Thank you so much for the beautiful ring holder and all your help. I LOVE IT!
- Steve and Barbara, (2022)
She’s absolutely over the moon with it. Like cannot love it more. Think she slept with it on the first night !!! Thank you so much Joi... the weekend couldn’t have gone better. U nailed it!!!! Thank you again for everything! Truly made it such an easy process and could not have been happier with the results!
- Maureen and Ed, (2022)
Cloud 9 is an understatement. And I can't tell you everyone is dying over that ring. Even strangers stop me. It's truly incredible!!
- Ally and Jonathan, (May 2022)
Joi!! Thank you so much for my ring it is more than I could have dreamed of. So happy I will recommend you to everyone!! You worked your magic like you said!!!
- Emily and Jack, (2022)
Joi- The rings are so beautiful!! Thank you so much for bringing the vision to life we went with mountain top proposals as previously mused upon. True to form for us! Adventure partners for life.
- Cara and Eileen, (2022)
Joi is beyond wonderful! She designed two wedding bands (totally long distance through FaceTime, I might add) beyond anything I could've dreamed, and she is a pleasure to work with!!
- Allie Perkins, (2022)
You're incredible. Thank you. I love my ring so much. Exactly what I dreamed of!!
- Mario and Lisa Marie, (2022)
Ahhh! Couldn't have done it without you. She is so OBSESSED! Thank you so much it was a night we will never forget...
My fiancé worked with Joi to create my dream engagement ring. He explained how Joi made the entire process very fun and that he is only working with her for the rest of his life. Joi's attention to detail creates the most beautiful pieces of art. She's truly the best!
- Jessica and Jared, (2022)
Thank you for helping with the ring. It is gorgeous and Katie loves it.
-Katie and Ivan, (2022)